Thursday, March 31, 2005


Farmer's Market in NKY

I have one question... why? I know, I know... I am the guy who says that it shooldn't be a competition between NKY and Cincinnati, and what is good for NKY is not bad for Cincinnati. However, when we have one of the most treasured and longest running outdoor markets in Findlay Market in Over-the-Rhine, what is the point of creating someting new in NKY. It would only pull away patrons from Findlay, and could eventually cause the demise of one of the areas charished ammenities. So, no.... Development in KY is not always a bad thing for Cincy, but if Covington proposed building a Major League Baseball stadium on the riverfront, I'd say that was unnecessary. It's about smart development, and trying to create a new farmer's market less than 2 miles from one of the areas treasures is not smart development.

Having a market in Covington will give options to more folk. If Findlay continues movement on getting their stuff together then this wont be a problem.
I understand your concerns, but I think the area is definitely big enough to support more than one farmer's market. I'm sure there are a lot of N Ky folks who would never go to Findlay who will support the one in Covington.

Newport has had a Saturday morning farmer's market -- first on Monmouth St, now at the Levee -- for a few years now, but it's not set up as a permanent thing.
Dave... I think that is my point though. Findlay Market is a treasure, and they've done an amazing job rehabbing it. There are already too many people who 'would never go to Findlay'. And a new market would just add to that trend. It would be a sad day for the area if we got to the point where this great market was abandoned.

How often do you go to Findlay Market?

You say: "Market is a treasure, and they've done an amazing job rehabbing it"? Because it is shiny, it is an amazing job? I think you need to take a closer look. The market's character was destroyed, the vendors were alienated, the market design is faulty, their produce sucks, etc.

There needs to be competition, but the level that they are offering in Covington is not really competition. It is an amatuerish effort at best.

My question is why there is seldom in Cincinnati anything that reflects excellence? All that we get is mediocrity.

Anticipating your question, Yes, compared to who runs the Findlay and Covington Markets, I am an expert.
Kraut... your comments are valid. There have been problems. The move to Sunday hours has alienated some of the vendors. The was also some issues with the development of the properties on the south side of the market.

However, this post is not about the current management (I could post about that, and debate the pros/cons of the work that has been completed). This post is about the fact that Findlay Market is a great venue that has historic significance in the city. If there are problems they should be addressed, it doesn't make sense to abandon it. If you have ideas about how the market should be run, or the quality controls, take those to the market and help make the improvements happen.
Actually, I and others have tried to offer suggestions, but it was typical of how city bureaucrats are not receptive. They know all the answers.

Findlay will be around whether it is economically feasible or not. There are too many of those groupies that will be down there fanning the embers when they have been long cold.

The area needs leadership, something that is lacking at city hall. But hell, that is a reoccurring problem with this city , isn't it?

When you say you've tried to offer suggestions, but have not been listened to because of 'city bureaucrats' who have you tried to talk to? The market is not run by the city or anyone at city hall. It is run by a non-profit organization, currently led by Bob Pickford, and George Wright (from an Operations perspective).

If you are serious about trying to make some positive changes, send me an email offline ( I will be happy to facilitate getting a meeting set up for you. I have found Bob and George overly ambitious to help those that want to take the market forward.

Too many in Cincinnati are quick to try to bash ourselves. It's so much easier to point out what isn't working, than it is to recognize things that need to be fixed and take constructive action to fix it.
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